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Henry Jeffreys's avatar

Very good. My father always describes himself as English not British though he wouldn't pass the Konstan Kisin test being of Polish Jewish heritage.

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East Anglian's avatar

Nicely written. But dismissing DNA seems silly to me.

England wasn't created by random citizens of the globe. It was created by the mixture of Northern European peoples who *lived here on this land*- the Angles, Saxons, Vikings, Celts.

England hasn't been invaded since 1066 (and the Normans came in pretty small numbers), and pre-1945 it had tiny levels of immigration. That made for an extremely stable population for at least 1,000 years - a long time.

In other words the English, pretty self-evidently, evolved as a very distinct ethnic group that's existed on one island for centuries. However distasteful the subject is in polite circles, it seems to me that our genetics are highly significant.

That doesn't mean that small numbers of outsiders can't integrate and 'become English' in the cultural sense. They have in the past. But that's because they were *very small numbers*, and no other options were available to them. We're way, way past that situation now.

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