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Simon Neale's avatar

I met a businessman who was working in Russia back in the 1990s, shortly after it opened up to foreign capital. He said that there were no pubs, beer halls, and the like, and that if people wanted to drink they normally bought a few bottles and sat around in one another's kitchens getting hammered. Public drinking, he said, was officially frowned upon under the Soviet Union, because people got together and grumbled and complained about the government. Gossip could spread, people could get ideas, and realise that there were like-minded malcontents across the community. It caused trouble for the authorities.

There's probably a good deal of that with our government. With no pub on the street corner, and X being severely curtailed or banned, they will prevent the spread of new ideas and "Are you thinking what I'm thinking...?" type conversations.

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chris j's avatar

I’m sat in a Wetherspoon in Birkenhead drinking an excellent pint of real ale stout which Tim Martin has sold me for £2.20. The place is half full at 7pm on a Thursday but completely full at lunch times, even on a Monday, with people eating and drinking food for less than £15 a head including a drink. This is Birkenhead, one of the poorest places in the UK, but it’s not full of drunks or unpleasant people. Just locals and retired people enjoying a chin wag and a drink. Maybe we need more Wetherspoons, they seem to be a successful business model? The pub co’s ruined the pub culture in this country, granted the government isn’t and hasn’t helped, but they’re not main the reason for the massive closures in recent years, more the straw that broke the camels back. Prices are too high in most pubs, stupid rents and tied beer prices in the pub co houses are mainly to blame, greedy breweries selling off properties to them 30 years ago instigated and fuelled the crisis. Labour MP’s banned from your locals might make you feel a little better but it was consecutive Conservative governments who set the ball rolling towards the social disaster looming in front of us.

Meanwhile Wetherspoons continue to reap the profits and replace the old locals with identical environments and identical nationwide offerings. We’ve sold our souls and community hubs for an anodyne and slightly vacant group of real estate but at least we have that, soon it might be more or less all we have.

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