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rwatmo's avatar

A few things to unpack there. My hunch is the TCPA did a lot to polarise the geography of class. In contrast to London (and especially the North and Midlands) the closer your are to the centre the of town the poorer people become, and the more likely they are to have lived for decades next to derelict land, as you go out the edge people become more affluent and more likely they are to live next protected greenbelt. When you ask why those people live next to derelict land for decades the answer is economics, and when you ask why people on edge live for decades next protected green land the answer is values. It’s a rhetorical sleight of hand that once you see it, you can’t unsee it, and it’s deeply divisive. Northern cities have managed to export their most affluent and articulate members to the periphery, and they leverage their political power to the detriment of other communities. Through that lens ‘brownfield first’ becomes argument made by one community to ensure it can continue to live in low density, drive cars beside fields, while another community is forced into high density, and less access to green space. So I’m with your libertarian instincts in the sense both should be subject to the same land use economics (or the same land use values), and suburbs are indeed fine, but they should be allowed to organically thicken up and extend. Hard not to agree that suburbs, at least in developed economies, are fundamental to fertility.

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Rob Middleton's avatar

Interesting article and critique of the YIMBY Alliance.

Although some of the material you quoted to support your argument in favour of suburbs and the car was a tad questionable. Case in point:

"European urban areas rely principally on cars for mobility (though to a somewhat lesser degree)"

Anyone just has to take a look at the six to eight lane freeways barrelling through the urban centres of many US cities (see Texas) to realize "somewhat lesser degree" is a poor choice of words. Yes, cars are important. And rightfully so. But, the US's obsession with the motor vehicle has done it a considerable disservice. Hence, likely, why the US based YIMBYs have such an intense dislike of low-density, car centric, suburban sprawl.

A middle ground, as seen in the UK, seems a fair compromise.

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